Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Andrew Luck: The Next Peyton Manning or The Next Jeff George (or worse?)

Even Sports Illustrated knew the Colts were taking a big risk in drafting Jeff George.
It's amazing how a few days can change everything.  Our last post on Monday night predicted that teams 3-7 could all receive interest from teams looking to trade up for Ryan Tannehill.  Barely 36 hours later, and barely 30 hours before the draft, Minnesota GM Rick Spielman has indicated that trade talks have "really heated up" for the Vikings' pick at #3.  Some are saying it's the Dolphins for trying to trade for Tannehill, others are saying it's a team trying to get Trent Richardson (The Rams at 6?  The Bucs at 5?), which would, in turn, cause the Browns (at 4) to look hard at trading down and break their fans hearts for the second time this offseason (first RG3, now Richardson) all at the same time.

For the rest of this post, we'll stick to sure things, namely that Andrew Luck will be the Colts' pick at #1 overall.  The Colts think he's a sure thing and are so sure of it that they cut ties with Peyton Manning.

After the jump, a look at the best- and worst-case scenarios for the Colts and Andrew Luck.


In the 42 drafts since the merger, a quarterback has gone #1 overall 19 times, more than any other position.  Recent history has seen this happen even more often; each of the past 3 years and 4 of the past 5, a QB has gone #1.

We'll use the "performance points" system put forth by Bill Barnwell in his column yesterday:
  • 1 point for a game started
  • 0.5 points for a game played but not started
  • 10 points for a Pro Bowl
  • 10 more points for 1st-team All-Pro
We're also adding another 10 points for a Super Bowl win, which is all the more important with a quarterback given that he's the face of the franchise.

For now, we'll put the top picks from the last three years (Cam Newton, Sam Bradford, and Matthew Stafford) in the "too early to tell" bucket, leaving us 16 QBs to rate:

16 QBs Taken #1 Overall, 1970-2008, Ranked by Performance Points (active players in yellow)






Rank
Year
Player
Games Started
Games Subbed
Pro Bowls
1st Team All-Pro
Super Bowl Wins
Seasons
Total Points
Points Per Season
1
98
P. Manning
208
0
11
5
1
14
378
27
2
83
J. Elway
231
3
9
1
2
16
353
22
3
89
T. Aikman
165
0
6
1
3
12
265
22
4
93
D. Bledsoe
193
1
4
0
1
14
244
17
5
87
V Testaverde
214
19
2
0
0
21
244
12
6
70
T. Bradshaw
158
10
3
1
4
14
243
17
7
71
J. Plunkett
144
13
0
0
2
15
171
11
8
04
E. Manning
119
2
2
0
2
8
160
20
9
75
S. Bartkowski
127
2
2
0
0
12
148
12
10
01
M. Vick
92
19
4
0
0
9
142
16
11
90
J. George
124
7
0
0
0
12
128
11
12
03
C. Palmer
106
1
2
0
0
8
127
16
13
02
D. Carr
79
13
0
0
0
8
86
11
14
05
A Smith
66
4
0
0
0
6
68
11
15
99
T. Couch
59
3
0
0
0
5
61
12
16
07
J. Russell
25
6
0
0
0
3
28
9
Average
131.9
6.4
2.8
0.5
0.9
11.1
177.6
15.4


So if you're a Colts fan, your best case scenario for the man tabbed to replace Peyton Manning is, well, Peyton Manning.  Your worst case?  JaMarcus Russell!  Your most likely?  Probably somewhere in the middle third of the table above from, say, from #6 to #11.  1 Hall of Famer (Bradshaw), 3 multiple Super Bowl winners (Bradshaw, Plunkett, and Manning), and one Jeff George (remember him, Colts fans?) in that bunch.

Maybe the scariest stat for Colts fans?  Only 7 of the QBs above -- less than half -- ever won a Super Bowl, and one of them (Bledsoe) didn't play in it (although, to be fair, the Pats don't beat Pittsburgh in the '01 AFC Title game without Bledsoe).

(Sidenote: Did you realize Vinny Testaverde played for 21 seasons!?)

Vinny, the #1 overall pick 25 years ago, on the cover of Sports Illustrated

Enjoy the frenzied run-up to the draft . . .

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3 comments:

  1. I said it in your previous post and I'll say it again.... You just can't replace Manning!

    How can one be so confident in a college player that they can drop a guy like Manning? College football and the NFL are two different leagues. You can't predict NFL success based on college performance.

    Remember all the hype and expectations of Matt Leinart? Where is he now? Unemployed if I'm not mistaken. He may have been great in college but in professional sports... he amounts to squat!

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    1. I don't think anybody, including the Colt's front office is thinking about replacing Peyton Manning, but you have to look at what was going on from the Colt's perspective. 1) Peyton was hurt the entire season and the money we were spending on him (while he earned every penny) has been crippling to the rest of our team's glaring needs, 2) we have a chance to draft an impressive QB who would have sat unused on the bench, when their were many other needs than having a 20 million dollar "camp arm", 3) We didn't force him out, it was a mutual parting of ways. I sincerely think there was no ill will between these two sides and Peyton will be a Colt again when he retires. To constantly keep comparing Luck to Peyton is unfair to him and I think that Colts fans need to stop doing it!

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  2. Only 10 points for a super bowl win?!?! Who are you? Donovan Mcnabb?

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